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Showing posts with label Barry Zito. Show all posts
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Thursday, September 27, 2012
Saltzman Says...What The Giants Post Season Roster Should Be
Starting Nine
1. Angel Pagan
2. Marco Scutaro
3. Pablo Sandoval
4. Buster Posey
5. Hunter Pence
6. Brandon Belt
7. Xavier Nady
8. Brandon Crawford
9. Matt Cain
Bench
10. Hector Sanchez
11. Ryan Theriot
12. Joaquin Arias
13. Gregor Blanco
14. Aubrey Huff
Other Starting Pitchers
15. Madison Bumgarner
16. Tim Lincecum
17. Barry Zito
Bullpen
18. Ryan Vogelsong
19. Guillermo Mota
20. Jose Mijares
21. Clay Hensley
22. Jeremy Affeldt
23. Santiago Casilla
24. Javier Lopez
25. Sergio Romo
Monday, April 16, 2012
Saltzman Says...Sabean's Strategery Showing Sure Signs of Success
Six Sure Signs of Success
1. Matt Cain is an Ace
No matter what happens with Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain is signed through 2018. Regardless of how much money Tim wants, Cain will be here. That allows the team some leverage in negotiations and does force the hand of Lincecum to perform if he wants more than the $22.5 million he'll make in 2013.
2. 1st Pablo and now Madison
Locking young players up is the easiest way to ensure more cost certainty in the future. The team did it previously with Cain, and also with Brian Wilson. Wilson, who's contract is up after the season, actually has a 4th year of arbitration awaiting. Pablo is signed through his arbitration. Bumgarner is signed through the first year of his free agency. Having their salaries locked him could save the team money they might have had to spend to keep them during arbitration, but more importantly, allows them to know what is on their books.
3. 1st Rowand and Huff and then Zito
This year will be interesting because the team might not have any money to spend as they approach the trade deadline, but may have some money next off-season. Aaron Rowand's $12 million as well as Aubrey Huff's $11 million will both be off the books. After the team says goodbye to that $23 million, they will finally breathe a sigh of relief the following year when the monstrous 7 year $126 million beast of a contract Barry Zito signed will be gone. He will make $21 million next season and then the team will pay him $7 million to no longer be a Giant. That $42 million that is currently devoted to Rowand, Huff and Zito will be gone.
4. The Kids are coming, The Kids are coming...
Freddy Sanchez is making $6 million, Jeremy Affeldt is making $5 million, and Angel Pagan is making $4.5 million. Even if any of these 3 end up having strong years in 2012, they will more than likely be making less in 2013. It is possible that with the strides being made in the minors by Joe Panik, Heath Hembree and Gary Brown, that the $15.5 million currently devoted to Sanchez, Affeldt and Pagan will turn into $1.2 million to Panik, Hembree and Brown.
5. The Bills will be Paid!
According to Ken Rosenthal of FoxSports, the Giants will no longer owe $20 million a year for AT&T Park after 2017. So when the Giants are paying Matt Cain $20 million and Madison Bumgarner $12 million, they can afford to pay Lincecum $25 and Buster Posey whatever he will be making. Same for Pablo Sandoval, Sergio Romo, Brandon Belt, Brandon Crawford, Nate Schierholtz, Gary Brown, Joe Panik, and Heath Hembree.
6. Even more Kids are coming...
Whether it's current 25 man roster contributors like Hector Sanchez and Brett Pill, 40 man roster options like Francisco Peguero and Charlie Culberson or up and comers like Tommy Joseph and Chris Dominguez, the Giants are stockpiled with talent and that will continue because of the scouting department and the staff the team has put together in the minor leagues. San Jose, Richmond and Fresno are loaded with talent and potential and it will allow the Giants the flexibility to move a player like Zach Wheeler for Carlos Beltran even if it is a 2 month rental because the team has Erik Surkamp or Kyle Crick
1. Matt Cain is an Ace
No matter what happens with Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain is signed through 2018. Regardless of how much money Tim wants, Cain will be here. That allows the team some leverage in negotiations and does force the hand of Lincecum to perform if he wants more than the $22.5 million he'll make in 2013.
2. 1st Pablo and now Madison
Locking young players up is the easiest way to ensure more cost certainty in the future. The team did it previously with Cain, and also with Brian Wilson. Wilson, who's contract is up after the season, actually has a 4th year of arbitration awaiting. Pablo is signed through his arbitration. Bumgarner is signed through the first year of his free agency. Having their salaries locked him could save the team money they might have had to spend to keep them during arbitration, but more importantly, allows them to know what is on their books.
3. 1st Rowand and Huff and then Zito
This year will be interesting because the team might not have any money to spend as they approach the trade deadline, but may have some money next off-season. Aaron Rowand's $12 million as well as Aubrey Huff's $11 million will both be off the books. After the team says goodbye to that $23 million, they will finally breathe a sigh of relief the following year when the monstrous 7 year $126 million beast of a contract Barry Zito signed will be gone. He will make $21 million next season and then the team will pay him $7 million to no longer be a Giant. That $42 million that is currently devoted to Rowand, Huff and Zito will be gone.
4. The Kids are coming, The Kids are coming...
Freddy Sanchez is making $6 million, Jeremy Affeldt is making $5 million, and Angel Pagan is making $4.5 million. Even if any of these 3 end up having strong years in 2012, they will more than likely be making less in 2013. It is possible that with the strides being made in the minors by Joe Panik, Heath Hembree and Gary Brown, that the $15.5 million currently devoted to Sanchez, Affeldt and Pagan will turn into $1.2 million to Panik, Hembree and Brown.
5. The Bills will be Paid!
According to Ken Rosenthal of FoxSports, the Giants will no longer owe $20 million a year for AT&T Park after 2017. So when the Giants are paying Matt Cain $20 million and Madison Bumgarner $12 million, they can afford to pay Lincecum $25 and Buster Posey whatever he will be making. Same for Pablo Sandoval, Sergio Romo, Brandon Belt, Brandon Crawford, Nate Schierholtz, Gary Brown, Joe Panik, and Heath Hembree.
6. Even more Kids are coming...
Whether it's current 25 man roster contributors like Hector Sanchez and Brett Pill, 40 man roster options like Francisco Peguero and Charlie Culberson or up and comers like Tommy Joseph and Chris Dominguez, the Giants are stockpiled with talent and that will continue because of the scouting department and the staff the team has put together in the minor leagues. San Jose, Richmond and Fresno are loaded with talent and potential and it will allow the Giants the flexibility to move a player like Zach Wheeler for Carlos Beltran even if it is a 2 month rental because the team has Erik Surkamp or Kyle Crick
Saltzman Says...25 Man Roster (Madison Bumgarner Extension Edition)
Rotation:
1. #1 Starter: Tim Lincecum
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract through 2013
2012 Salary: $18 million
2013 Salary: $22.5 million
2. #2 Starter: Madison Bumgarner
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Salary: $560K
2013 Salary $750K
2014 Salary $3.75 million
2015 Salary $6.75 million
2016 Salary $9.75 million
2017 Salary $11.5 million
2018 (club vesting option)
2019 (club option)
3. #3 Starter: Matt Cain
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $15 million
2013 Salary $20 million
2014 Salary $20 million
2015 Salary $20 million
2016 Salary $20 million
2017 Salary $20 million
2018 Salary $21 million (vesting option)
4. #4 Starter: Ryan Vogelsong
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $3 million
2013 Salary: $5 million
2014 Salary: $6.5 million (club option)
5. #5 Starter: Barry Zito
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract through 2014
2012 Salary: $19 million
2013 Salary: $21 million
2014 Salary: $18 million (club option)
Bullpen:
6. Closer Brian Wilson
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $8.5 million
7. Setup Man Sergio Romo
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $1.575 million
8. Lefty Specialist Javier Lopez
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $4.25 million
2013 Salary: $4.25 million
9. Right Handed Reliever Santiago Casilla
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $2.2 million
10. Left Handed Reliever Jeremy Affeldt
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $5 million
11. Right Handed Reliever Guillermo Mota
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $1 million
12. Long Man/Spot Starter Clay Hensley
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $750K
Starting Lineup:
13. Center Field Angel Pagan
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $4.85 million
14. Second Base Freddy Sanchez
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $6 million
15. Third Base Pablo Sandoval
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $3.2 million
2013 Salary: $5.7 million
2014 Salary: $8.25 million
16. Catcher Buster Posey
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Salary: $650K
17. Left Field Melky Cabrera
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $6 million
18. First Base Aubrey Huff
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $11 million
19. Right Field Nate Schierholtz
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $1.3 million
20. Shortstop Brandon Crawford
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled
2012 Projected Salary: $480K
Bench:
21. Catcher Hector Sanchez
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Salary: $480K
22. First Base Brett Pill
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Projected Salary: $480K
23. UT Brandon Belt
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Salary: $480K
24. UT Ryan Theriot
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $1.25 million
25. 4th Outfield Gregor Blanco
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Salary: $480K
Aaron Rowand ($12 million)
Total Payroll: $126 million
1. #1 Starter: Tim Lincecum
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract through 2013
2012 Salary: $18 million
2013 Salary: $22.5 million
2. #2 Starter: Madison Bumgarner
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Salary: $560K
2013 Salary $750K
2014 Salary $3.75 million
2015 Salary $6.75 million
2016 Salary $9.75 million
2017 Salary $11.5 million
2018 (club vesting option)
2019 (club option)
3. #3 Starter: Matt Cain
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $15 million
2013 Salary $20 million
2014 Salary $20 million
2015 Salary $20 million
2016 Salary $20 million
2017 Salary $20 million
2018 Salary $21 million (vesting option)
4. #4 Starter: Ryan Vogelsong
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $3 million
2013 Salary: $5 million
2014 Salary: $6.5 million (club option)
5. #5 Starter: Barry Zito
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract through 2014
2012 Salary: $19 million
2013 Salary: $21 million
2014 Salary: $18 million (club option)
Bullpen:
6. Closer Brian Wilson
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $8.5 million
7. Setup Man Sergio Romo
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $1.575 million
8. Lefty Specialist Javier Lopez
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $4.25 million
2013 Salary: $4.25 million
9. Right Handed Reliever Santiago Casilla
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $2.2 million
10. Left Handed Reliever Jeremy Affeldt
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $5 million
11. Right Handed Reliever Guillermo Mota
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $1 million
12. Long Man/Spot Starter Clay Hensley
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $750K
Starting Lineup:
13. Center Field Angel Pagan
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $4.85 million
14. Second Base Freddy Sanchez
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $6 million
15. Third Base Pablo Sandoval
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $3.2 million
2013 Salary: $5.7 million
2014 Salary: $8.25 million
16. Catcher Buster Posey
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Salary: $650K
17. Left Field Melky Cabrera
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $6 million
18. First Base Aubrey Huff
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $11 million
19. Right Field Nate Schierholtz
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $1.3 million
20. Shortstop Brandon Crawford
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled
2012 Projected Salary: $480K
Bench:
21. Catcher Hector Sanchez
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Salary: $480K
22. First Base Brett Pill
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Projected Salary: $480K
23. UT Brandon Belt
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Salary: $480K
24. UT Ryan Theriot
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $1.25 million
25. 4th Outfield Gregor Blanco
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Salary: $480K
Aaron Rowand ($12 million)
Total Payroll: $126 million
Monday, April 2, 2012
Saltzman Says...25 Man Roster (Matt Cain Extension Edition)
Rotation:
1. #1 Starter: Tim Lincecum
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract through 2013
2012 Salary: $18 million
2. #2 Starter: Matt Cain
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract through 2017 (vesting option in 2018)
2012 Salary: $15 million
3. #3 Starter: Madison Bumgarner
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Projected Salary: $850K
4. #4 Starter: Ryan Vogelsong
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $3 million
5. #5 Starter: Barry Zito
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract through 2014
2012 Salary: $19 million ($46 million buyout unlikely)
Bullpen:
6. Closer Brian Wilson
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $8.5 million
7. Setup Man Sergio Romo
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $1.575 million
8. Lefty Specialist Javier Lopez
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract through 2013
2012 Salary: $4.25 million
9. Right Handed Reliever Santiago Casilla
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $2.2 million
10. Left Handed Reliever Jeremy Affeldt
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $5 million
11. Right Handed Reliever Guillermo Mota
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $1 million
12. Long Man/Spot Starter Clay Hensley
2012 Salary Situation: Non Guaranteed Contract
2012 Salary: $750K
Starting Lineup:
13. Center Field Angel Pagan
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $4.85 million
14. Second Base Freddy Sanchez
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $6 million
15. Third Base Pablo Sandoval
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract through 2014
2012 Salary: $3.2 million
16. Catcher Buster Posey
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Projected Salary: $1 million
17. Left Field Melky Cabrera
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $6 million
18. First Base Aubrey Huff
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $11 million
19. Right Field Nate Schierholtz
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $1.3 million
20. Shortstop Brandon Crawford
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled
2012 Projected Salary: $480K
Bench:
21. Catcher Eli Whiteside
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Projected Salary: $1 million
22. First Base Brett Pill
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Projected Salary: $480K
23. Infield Mike Fontenot
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $1.05 million
24. UT Ryan Theriot
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $1.25 million
25. 4th Outfield Brandon Belt
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Projected Salary: $480K
Bench Estimated Payroll Impact: $4 million
Estimated Payroll: $114 million
Aaron Rowand ($12 million)
Total Payroll: $126 million
1. #1 Starter: Tim Lincecum
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract through 2013
2012 Salary: $18 million
2. #2 Starter: Matt Cain
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract through 2017 (vesting option in 2018)
2012 Salary: $15 million
Matt Cain obtains a signing bonus of $5MM and his 2012 salary of $15MM remains unchanged, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (Twitter links). The right-hander will earn $20MM annually from 2013-17 and the deal includes a $21MM option with a $7.5MM buyout for 2018, according to Rosenthal. The 2018 option will vest if Cain is healthy in 2017, according to Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (on Twitter). Otherwise it becomes a club option. Cain has full no-trade protection, according to Jim Bowden of ESPN.com and MLB Network Radio (Twitter link).
3. #3 Starter: Madison Bumgarner
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Projected Salary: $850K
4. #4 Starter: Ryan Vogelsong
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $3 million
5. #5 Starter: Barry Zito
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract through 2014
2012 Salary: $19 million ($46 million buyout unlikely)
Bullpen:
6. Closer Brian Wilson
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $8.5 million
7. Setup Man Sergio Romo
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $1.575 million
8. Lefty Specialist Javier Lopez
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract through 2013
2012 Salary: $4.25 million
9. Right Handed Reliever Santiago Casilla
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $2.2 million
10. Left Handed Reliever Jeremy Affeldt
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $5 million
11. Right Handed Reliever Guillermo Mota
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $1 million
12. Long Man/Spot Starter Clay Hensley
2012 Salary Situation: Non Guaranteed Contract
2012 Salary: $750K
Starting Lineup:
13. Center Field Angel Pagan
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $4.85 million
14. Second Base Freddy Sanchez
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $6 million
15. Third Base Pablo Sandoval
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract through 2014
2012 Salary: $3.2 million
16. Catcher Buster Posey
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Projected Salary: $1 million
17. Left Field Melky Cabrera
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $6 million
18. First Base Aubrey Huff
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $11 million
19. Right Field Nate Schierholtz
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $1.3 million
20. Shortstop Brandon Crawford
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled
2012 Projected Salary: $480K
Bench:
21. Catcher Eli Whiteside
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Projected Salary: $1 million
22. First Base Brett Pill
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Projected Salary: $480K
23. Infield Mike Fontenot
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $1.05 million
24. UT Ryan Theriot
2012 Salary Situation: Under Contract
2012 Salary: $1.25 million
25. 4th Outfield Brandon Belt
2012 Salary Situation: Team Controlled Contract
2012 Projected Salary: $480K
Bench Estimated Payroll Impact: $4 million
Estimated Payroll: $114 million
Aaron Rowand ($12 million)
Total Payroll: $126 million
Friday, September 30, 2011
Saltzman Says...Answering Giants Questions
First and foremost
1. Matt Cain signed long term is priority #1 because he will be a free agent after this year.
Short term, Long term, The Freak is staying.
2. Tim Lincecum prefers short term deals, but the Giants would like to sign him long term if possible.
If we can only keep one lefty...
3. Jeremy Affeldt will be re-signed even if his option isn't picked up, in case Javier Lopez is too expensive to re-sign.
Too expensive to keep?:
4. Javier Lopez and Carlos Beltran will probably be offered more years/money than the Giants would like to spend.
Buster is still our catcher, but...
5. Buster Posey will be our starting catcher, but after him is another story. Chris Stewart is the most likely to return with an outside chance Eli Whiteside could remain the backup. Hector Sanchez should begin 2012 in the minors, so the question will be if the Giants go get a catcher in the open market to backup Posey.
Logjam at 2nd will get clearer.
6. Freddy Sanchez healthy is an oxymoron to Giants fans, but when he is, there is no issues at 2nd. Will Jeff Keppinger be kept as insurance, or will he find an every day job somewhere else. Manny Burriss has a better glove and Mike Fontenot's lefty bat are intriguing, but who stays is anyone's guess. Even Conor Gillaspie will get a look next year.
Put down the cookies Panda! Put down the beer and cigarettes Huff Daddy!
7. Aubrey Huff and Pablo Sandoval's conditioning is the biggest offensive question marks of the players returning.
Brandons not Ready for Prime Time.
8. Both Brandon Belt and Brandon Crawford are having problems with their swing, and both could use some more minor league seasoning if possible.
Nate still Great, but the rest of the outfield...
9. Nate Schierholtz is the 2012 starting right fielder barring an upgrade or a fall off at the plate. Neither Andres Torres, Justin Christian or Cody Ross seem like options to start 2012 in CF, so the question becomes who will. Gary Brown is not ready and might not be until 2013. Even if he is ready sooner, the team will not go into Spring Training with Torres and Ross only as options. Torres and Ross might not even be brought back, but if they are, it will be to compete for the 4th or 5th outfield spot. Pat Burrell has said he will only return to SF if he does come back in 2012, and Darren Ford doesn't have the bat to go with his legs.
1. Matt Cain signed long term is priority #1 because he will be a free agent after this year.
Short term, Long term, The Freak is staying.
2. Tim Lincecum prefers short term deals, but the Giants would like to sign him long term if possible.
If we can only keep one lefty...
3. Jeremy Affeldt will be re-signed even if his option isn't picked up, in case Javier Lopez is too expensive to re-sign.
Too expensive to keep?:
4. Javier Lopez and Carlos Beltran will probably be offered more years/money than the Giants would like to spend.
Buster is still our catcher, but...
5. Buster Posey will be our starting catcher, but after him is another story. Chris Stewart is the most likely to return with an outside chance Eli Whiteside could remain the backup. Hector Sanchez should begin 2012 in the minors, so the question will be if the Giants go get a catcher in the open market to backup Posey.
Logjam at 2nd will get clearer.
6. Freddy Sanchez healthy is an oxymoron to Giants fans, but when he is, there is no issues at 2nd. Will Jeff Keppinger be kept as insurance, or will he find an every day job somewhere else. Manny Burriss has a better glove and Mike Fontenot's lefty bat are intriguing, but who stays is anyone's guess. Even Conor Gillaspie will get a look next year.
Put down the cookies Panda! Put down the beer and cigarettes Huff Daddy!
7. Aubrey Huff and Pablo Sandoval's conditioning is the biggest offensive question marks of the players returning.
Brandons not Ready for Prime Time.
8. Both Brandon Belt and Brandon Crawford are having problems with their swing, and both could use some more minor league seasoning if possible.
Nate still Great, but the rest of the outfield...
9. Nate Schierholtz is the 2012 starting right fielder barring an upgrade or a fall off at the plate. Neither Andres Torres, Justin Christian or Cody Ross seem like options to start 2012 in CF, so the question becomes who will. Gary Brown is not ready and might not be until 2013. Even if he is ready sooner, the team will not go into Spring Training with Torres and Ross only as options. Torres and Ross might not even be brought back, but if they are, it will be to compete for the 4th or 5th outfield spot. Pat Burrell has said he will only return to SF if he does come back in 2012, and Darren Ford doesn't have the bat to go with his legs.
Friday, September 2, 2011
Saltzman Says...Rowand and Tejada just the beginning
Aaron Rowand and Miguel Tejada were the 1st two casualties of a record setting offense being released by the San Francisco Giants. Of course, by record setting, I mean one of the worst offenses in league history, who have set records for consecutive solo home runs and will be establishing records for lack of run support by the team the season is over. Rowand and Tejada's departure sends a clear and seismic pulse throughout the locker room that each and every veteran felt.
Aubrey Huff, the team's offensive leader in 2010, has been below average the entire year of 2011. If he continues to struggle into 2012, Brandon Belt will be given the keys at first base, and another 8 figure salary will be chopped. Cody Ross and Andres Torres, the NLCS MVP and Willie Mac Award winner in 2010, will both be looking for job in another outfield if they do not improve before next season. Ross is a free agent after the year and Torres is eligible to be offered salary arbitration. The Giants might not even offer Torres arbitration. Carlos Beltran, who has had a terrible time calling AT&T Park home, will want big money (4 years, $60 million, according to Scott Boras) to stay, so he can play as bad a Rowand and still be happy in San Francisco.
Mark DeRosa, Orlando Cabrera, Pat Burrell and Mike Fontenot will all be free agents as well, and while all four would be low cost returns in 2012, none of the four are guaranteed even a contract offer. They all might have to be invited to Spring Training.
Guillermo Mota, who was offered an invite to Spring Training each of the last two years, might be more likely to get a contract after his consistency out of the bullpen and his versatility on top of that. Javier Lopez, Ramon Ramirez, Santiago Casilla and Jeremy Affeldt are not sure returns either, but the talented bullpen should stay in tact in 2012.
All of that talk pales in comparison to the biggest elephant in the room, Barry Zito and his bloated, oversized, unnecessary, franchise altering contract. Zito may be staying for no other reason than the team's reluctance to pay him and watch him pitch for someone else. Jonathan Sanchez, who started 2011 as the team's #2 starter over Matt Cain, might not make the rotation if the team can bring back Ryan Vogelsong. Sanchez will certainly be an option to trade. Eric Surkamp, Craig Westcott and others can certainly challenge for a 5th spot in the rotation if the team decides to trade Sanchez or dump Zito.
The only certainty is that Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Madison Bumgarner, Sergio Romo, and Brian Wilson will pitch for the Giants in 2012. Buster Posey, Belt, Freddy Sanchez, Pablo Sandoval, and Nate Schierholtz will hit in 2012. And, a lot of veterans will be spared to keep the pitching staff performances count for something.
Bullet Point look at next year by position:
Starting Pitching signed through next year
Aubrey Huff, the team's offensive leader in 2010, has been below average the entire year of 2011. If he continues to struggle into 2012, Brandon Belt will be given the keys at first base, and another 8 figure salary will be chopped. Cody Ross and Andres Torres, the NLCS MVP and Willie Mac Award winner in 2010, will both be looking for job in another outfield if they do not improve before next season. Ross is a free agent after the year and Torres is eligible to be offered salary arbitration. The Giants might not even offer Torres arbitration. Carlos Beltran, who has had a terrible time calling AT&T Park home, will want big money (4 years, $60 million, according to Scott Boras) to stay, so he can play as bad a Rowand and still be happy in San Francisco.
Mark DeRosa, Orlando Cabrera, Pat Burrell and Mike Fontenot will all be free agents as well, and while all four would be low cost returns in 2012, none of the four are guaranteed even a contract offer. They all might have to be invited to Spring Training.
Guillermo Mota, who was offered an invite to Spring Training each of the last two years, might be more likely to get a contract after his consistency out of the bullpen and his versatility on top of that. Javier Lopez, Ramon Ramirez, Santiago Casilla and Jeremy Affeldt are not sure returns either, but the talented bullpen should stay in tact in 2012.
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All of that talk pales in comparison to the biggest elephant in the room, Barry Zito and his bloated, oversized, unnecessary, franchise altering contract. Zito may be staying for no other reason than the team's reluctance to pay him and watch him pitch for someone else. Jonathan Sanchez, who started 2011 as the team's #2 starter over Matt Cain, might not make the rotation if the team can bring back Ryan Vogelsong. Sanchez will certainly be an option to trade. Eric Surkamp, Craig Westcott and others can certainly challenge for a 5th spot in the rotation if the team decides to trade Sanchez or dump Zito.
The only certainty is that Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Madison Bumgarner, Sergio Romo, and Brian Wilson will pitch for the Giants in 2012. Buster Posey, Belt, Freddy Sanchez, Pablo Sandoval, and Nate Schierholtz will hit in 2012. And, a lot of veterans will be spared to keep the pitching staff performances count for something.
Bullet Point look at next year by position:
Starting Pitching signed through next year
- Madison Bumgarner
- Matt Cain
- Barry Zito
- Brian Wilson
- C Buster Posey
- 1B Aubrey Huff
- 2B Freddy Sanchez
- Santiago Casilla
- Tim Lincecum
- Ramon Ramirez
- Jonathan Sanchez
- Jeremy Affeldt
- Javier Lopez
- Guillermo Mota
- Sergio Romo
- Ryan Vogelsong
- Jeff Keppinger
- Pablo Sandoval
- Nate Schierholtz
- Andres Torres
- Carlos Beltran
- Pat Burrell
- Orlando Cabrera
- Mark DeRosa
- Mike Fontenot
- Cody Ross
Thursday, April 14, 2011
Saltzman Says..Here is the first episode of "The Franchise"
HERE is the link to the first episode of "The Franchise," the new documentary about the 2011 San Francisco Giants on Showtime
Here is the link on Twitter - 'The Franchise' http://t.co/QjesgKT
Some of the highlights:
1. Brian Wilson is phenomenal: "You're Welcome"
2. See Brandon Belt's emotional meeting with Bruce Bochy
3. Get to meet Marc Kroon (Great Story)
4. Freddy Sanchez and his High School yearbook photo
5. Bruce Bochy catching Sharks
Wednesday, April 13, 2011
Saltzman Says...A's are set for the next fire sale
The Oakland A's have signed their top two pitchers to small market friendly extensions.
This headline reminds me of the other times the A's did the exact same thing. Oakland has always tried to put a competitive team on the field. Whether it was the big three of Mark Mulder, Tim Hudson and Barry Zito, or the big bats of Jason Giambi and Miguel Tejada, the A's have always had talent. When the A's traded Mark Mulder to the Cardinals for Dan Haren and Daric Barton, it looked like the A's were going back to the drawing board. But as Haren developed into an ace, it was clear the A's had something. That was until the A's traded Dan Haren to the Diamondbacks. Now, Billy Beane did receive a mint for Haren that included Carlos Gonzalez and Brett Anderson. However, the same GM that was re-tooling gave up Carlos Gonzalez for a rental in Matt Holliday. Confused yet? I have always been amazed at the talent the A's have had in their system and on the field and how inconsistent Billy Beane has been forced to be. One year they are filling their roster with vets to surround the young players, and the next they are letting the young players survive on the big stage alone.
Best Case Scenario: With Trevor Cahill and Brett Anderson signed for the next 4 years, Gio Gonzalez and Dallas Braden take less money to stay as well. That foursome rivals the Red Sox and Rays for American league dominance for the next four years, and free agents are willing to take less money to join the staff in Oakland.
Worst Case Scenario: In two years, after Dallas Braden is released because he is going to make too much in arbitration, the A's trade both Brett Anderson and Gio Gonzalez and get young prospects in return. Trevor Cahill is left to fend by himself, just like Dan Haren, and after a few more lonely trips to the All-Star game, is traded to a big market team for 5-6 top prospects.
Why is the city of Oakland currently stuck with 3 sports franchises that don't know how to build a champion anymore. I was born in 1980, so I missed the glory years of the 1970's when all three teams were champions.
This headline reminds me of the other times the A's did the exact same thing. Oakland has always tried to put a competitive team on the field. Whether it was the big three of Mark Mulder, Tim Hudson and Barry Zito, or the big bats of Jason Giambi and Miguel Tejada, the A's have always had talent. When the A's traded Mark Mulder to the Cardinals for Dan Haren and Daric Barton, it looked like the A's were going back to the drawing board. But as Haren developed into an ace, it was clear the A's had something. That was until the A's traded Dan Haren to the Diamondbacks. Now, Billy Beane did receive a mint for Haren that included Carlos Gonzalez and Brett Anderson. However, the same GM that was re-tooling gave up Carlos Gonzalez for a rental in Matt Holliday. Confused yet? I have always been amazed at the talent the A's have had in their system and on the field and how inconsistent Billy Beane has been forced to be. One year they are filling their roster with vets to surround the young players, and the next they are letting the young players survive on the big stage alone.
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| Trevor Cahill and Brett Anderson are the future for the A's, but for how long? |
Best Case Scenario: With Trevor Cahill and Brett Anderson signed for the next 4 years, Gio Gonzalez and Dallas Braden take less money to stay as well. That foursome rivals the Red Sox and Rays for American league dominance for the next four years, and free agents are willing to take less money to join the staff in Oakland.
Worst Case Scenario: In two years, after Dallas Braden is released because he is going to make too much in arbitration, the A's trade both Brett Anderson and Gio Gonzalez and get young prospects in return. Trevor Cahill is left to fend by himself, just like Dan Haren, and after a few more lonely trips to the All-Star game, is traded to a big market team for 5-6 top prospects.
Why is the city of Oakland currently stuck with 3 sports franchises that don't know how to build a champion anymore. I was born in 1980, so I missed the glory years of the 1970's when all three teams were champions.
Wednesday, February 16, 2011
Saltzman Says...Questions heading into Spring Training
Now that the best time of year is upon us and Pitchers and Catchers have reported to Scottsdale, here are my two cents on the biggest questions heading into Spring.
1. Will Pablo Sandoval be what he was in 2009?
Short Answer: No
Long Answer: He might never be a .330 hitter with 25 home runs and 90 RBI's. However, he may very well turn into a .300 hitter who can cut down on his strikeouts and put the ball in play more often. In 2011, it could lead to Pablo setting a record for double plays since he is still on one of the slowest teams in baseball. It could also lead to a much higher on base percentage and a consistent place in the lineup for Bruce Bochy. Bochy talked after the World Series about waking up weeks after Game 5 still thinking about his lineup card. If Sandoval can put up a reliable line, Sandoval can be penciled in each and every day at third base for the Giants.
2. Will Brandon Belt start on Opening Day?
Short Answer: No
Long Answer: The Giants have a current "Super 2" catcher in Buster Posey, who was brought up three days early in 2010 because the team needed his bat to try and win the Western Division. The team realized that despite the salaries rising for several players, they could afford to go to arbitration a year early with Posey. The same happened with Tim Lincecum, who was brought up in May and cost the Giants $23 million over the first two years of his arbitration. That would have happened anyway, but it wouldn't have started until 2010 for Lincecum had he stayed in Fresno for an extra three weeks. If Brandon Belt performs how the team expects, it is very possible a May call-up could happen. When it does happen, Belt will become an everyday starter. With so many options on the roster to play left field in 2011, it would take a monster spring for the Giants to consider bringing belt up to face the Dodgers on March 31. Belt and Aubrey Huff will eventually share left field and 1st base in 2011, but it is unlikely to begin in March.
3. Will the Giants starters wear down from the extra month of pitching in October?
Short Answer: No
Long Answer: Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Jonathan Sanchez and Madison Bumgarner did pitch more innings than ever before in their careers. However, with a reloaded bullpen, the Giants are poised to continue where they left off. Lincecum and Cain might not go 8 or 9 innings much in the first few months of the season. Jonathan Sanchez is projected to be the 3rd starter and Madison Bumgarner is projected to be the 4th starter. However, Barry Zito, who was brought in to be the ace, will more than likely be asked to be a bridge from Lincecum and Cain who have established themselves in the regular season as the two best pitchers on the staff, and Sanchez and Bumgarner, who do not have nearly the same track record. It would make sense from the developmental stand point of the two younger lefties. Zito is expected to pitch every 5th day and take the ball for at least 5 innings. Even though he has become the newest version of Livan Hernandez, Kirk Rueter, Mark Gardner, etc... He does stay healthy and he does pitch very well at times. Allowing Sanchez and Bumgarner to face opponents 4th and 5th starters respectively should help their overall success. Jeff Suppan, Brian Lawrence, Guillermo Mota and Dan Runzler are all in Spring Training with the purpose of giving the Giants long relief options as well.
4. Will one player win the everyday job in Left Field?
Short Answer: No
Long Answer: If Brian Sabean wanted an everyday left fielder this off-season, he would have gone after Carl Crawford harder. Sabean knows that with the current makeup of his team, he needs to give Bruce Bochy the flexibility to be productive. Pat Burrell, Mark DeRosa, Aubrey Huff, Cody Ross, Nate Schierholtz and Andres Torres all logged time in 2010 in left field and Aaron Rowand and Brandon Belt could also be in the mix. Burrell might end up as the team's fourth outfielder and best right handed power bat off the bench. DeRosa might never again be healthy enough to earn his $6 million a year. Huff will only win the everyday left field job if Brandon Belt becomes the everyday 1st baseman. Cody Ross will only play left field in Nate Schierholtz earns a starting job in right. Ross and Torres will be two of the three starting outfielders barring injury. Torres would only become our starting left fielder in Aaron Rowand won his center field job back, and even then it would probably be Ross in left and Torres in right.
5. Will Buster Posey have a sophomore slump like Pablo?
Short Answer: No
Long Answer: Buster Posey, who capped off his rookie season with a championship and a Rookie of the Year trophy, has only greatness ahead of him if he stays at that kind of pace. Pablo Sandoval burst onto the scene in a very similar way, leading a Bondsless team with his fun loving, power swinging persona. His .330 average was remarkable and his 25 home runs and 90 RBI's were incredible. Sandoval's drop off was so significant in 2010, that he barely played in the post-season. Posey, who never missed a game down the stretch playing the most demanding position, seemed to flourish in the most pressure packed situations. Posey's sophomore year is not slump proof, but his position has a lot to do with his chance for repeat success. As the team's starting catcher, Posey will be as important to the team behind the plate as he will be in the middle of the lineup. If Bengi Molina, Mike Matheny, Benito Santiago and the others before them proved anything, it is that a quality backstop can help the entire ballclub. Posey's defense will help our biggest strength, the pitching staff, stay on their game, it will allow the other team's running game to be less of a factor, and it will allow any hitting slump Posey has not to be looked at so critically. Veterans like Huff, Ross, Burrell and Miguel Tejada will help both Posey and Sandoval by being protected in the Giants lineup.
1. Will Pablo Sandoval be what he was in 2009?
Short Answer: No
Long Answer: He might never be a .330 hitter with 25 home runs and 90 RBI's. However, he may very well turn into a .300 hitter who can cut down on his strikeouts and put the ball in play more often. In 2011, it could lead to Pablo setting a record for double plays since he is still on one of the slowest teams in baseball. It could also lead to a much higher on base percentage and a consistent place in the lineup for Bruce Bochy. Bochy talked after the World Series about waking up weeks after Game 5 still thinking about his lineup card. If Sandoval can put up a reliable line, Sandoval can be penciled in each and every day at third base for the Giants.
2. Will Brandon Belt start on Opening Day?
Short Answer: No
Long Answer: The Giants have a current "Super 2" catcher in Buster Posey, who was brought up three days early in 2010 because the team needed his bat to try and win the Western Division. The team realized that despite the salaries rising for several players, they could afford to go to arbitration a year early with Posey. The same happened with Tim Lincecum, who was brought up in May and cost the Giants $23 million over the first two years of his arbitration. That would have happened anyway, but it wouldn't have started until 2010 for Lincecum had he stayed in Fresno for an extra three weeks. If Brandon Belt performs how the team expects, it is very possible a May call-up could happen. When it does happen, Belt will become an everyday starter. With so many options on the roster to play left field in 2011, it would take a monster spring for the Giants to consider bringing belt up to face the Dodgers on March 31. Belt and Aubrey Huff will eventually share left field and 1st base in 2011, but it is unlikely to begin in March.
3. Will the Giants starters wear down from the extra month of pitching in October?
Short Answer: No
Long Answer: Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Jonathan Sanchez and Madison Bumgarner did pitch more innings than ever before in their careers. However, with a reloaded bullpen, the Giants are poised to continue where they left off. Lincecum and Cain might not go 8 or 9 innings much in the first few months of the season. Jonathan Sanchez is projected to be the 3rd starter and Madison Bumgarner is projected to be the 4th starter. However, Barry Zito, who was brought in to be the ace, will more than likely be asked to be a bridge from Lincecum and Cain who have established themselves in the regular season as the two best pitchers on the staff, and Sanchez and Bumgarner, who do not have nearly the same track record. It would make sense from the developmental stand point of the two younger lefties. Zito is expected to pitch every 5th day and take the ball for at least 5 innings. Even though he has become the newest version of Livan Hernandez, Kirk Rueter, Mark Gardner, etc... He does stay healthy and he does pitch very well at times. Allowing Sanchez and Bumgarner to face opponents 4th and 5th starters respectively should help their overall success. Jeff Suppan, Brian Lawrence, Guillermo Mota and Dan Runzler are all in Spring Training with the purpose of giving the Giants long relief options as well.
4. Will one player win the everyday job in Left Field?
Short Answer: No
Long Answer: If Brian Sabean wanted an everyday left fielder this off-season, he would have gone after Carl Crawford harder. Sabean knows that with the current makeup of his team, he needs to give Bruce Bochy the flexibility to be productive. Pat Burrell, Mark DeRosa, Aubrey Huff, Cody Ross, Nate Schierholtz and Andres Torres all logged time in 2010 in left field and Aaron Rowand and Brandon Belt could also be in the mix. Burrell might end up as the team's fourth outfielder and best right handed power bat off the bench. DeRosa might never again be healthy enough to earn his $6 million a year. Huff will only win the everyday left field job if Brandon Belt becomes the everyday 1st baseman. Cody Ross will only play left field in Nate Schierholtz earns a starting job in right. Ross and Torres will be two of the three starting outfielders barring injury. Torres would only become our starting left fielder in Aaron Rowand won his center field job back, and even then it would probably be Ross in left and Torres in right.
5. Will Buster Posey have a sophomore slump like Pablo?
Short Answer: No
Long Answer: Buster Posey, who capped off his rookie season with a championship and a Rookie of the Year trophy, has only greatness ahead of him if he stays at that kind of pace. Pablo Sandoval burst onto the scene in a very similar way, leading a Bondsless team with his fun loving, power swinging persona. His .330 average was remarkable and his 25 home runs and 90 RBI's were incredible. Sandoval's drop off was so significant in 2010, that he barely played in the post-season. Posey, who never missed a game down the stretch playing the most demanding position, seemed to flourish in the most pressure packed situations. Posey's sophomore year is not slump proof, but his position has a lot to do with his chance for repeat success. As the team's starting catcher, Posey will be as important to the team behind the plate as he will be in the middle of the lineup. If Bengi Molina, Mike Matheny, Benito Santiago and the others before them proved anything, it is that a quality backstop can help the entire ballclub. Posey's defense will help our biggest strength, the pitching staff, stay on their game, it will allow the other team's running game to be less of a factor, and it will allow any hitting slump Posey has not to be looked at so critically. Veterans like Huff, Ross, Burrell and Miguel Tejada will help both Posey and Sandoval by being protected in the Giants lineup.
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| Will there be more magic in 2011? |
Monday, December 6, 2010
Saltzman Says... When Making a Splash Goes Wrong
Barry Bonds was the last big free agent signing that worked out for the San Francisco Giants. Stealing the future 40/40 man away from Pittsburgh, he won 5 MVP's and took us to the 2002 World Series, as well as help sell 3 million tickets a year every year at The Phone Company Park.
That's it. No other big signings have worked out. Not Ray Durham, or Edgardo Alfonso, or Matt Morris, or Barry Zito, or Aaron Rowand or Edgar Renteria.
The last three did help us win a World Series in 2010, but with the exception of Renteria's final week, it was $204 million too much money ($126 million + $60 million + $18 million.)
It wasn't even that we picked the wrong players. It just doesn't make sense to spend big in free agency. The market is never deep, and it forces teams to outbid each other. Jayson Werth just signed the same contract aas Barry Zito did in 2007 with the lowly Washington Nationals. Seven years for $126 million. This means that Carl Crawford, another outstanding outfielder, should end up expecting more years and more money because he is younger. Adrian Gonzalez, recently traded to the Boston Red Sox, will be a free agent next year, and is looking for an extension from the Sox similar to the 8 year $180 million Mark Teixiera got from the mighty dollar New York Yankees. Big market teams drive up the comparable prices for free agents, which in turn forces smaller market teams to overpay free agents even more. That is how Zito and Rowand came to the Bondsless Giants in the first place.
Players need something to prove to play up to their potential. It is not always money related, but it usually is. Aubrey Huff and Juan Uribe were playing last year on one year deals. They were not offered any more money or years than that from 29 other teams. Huff wanted to prove he could play 1st base and could still hit for power. Uribe wanted to prove he was worth a multi-year contract. Freddy Sanchez was coming off an injury plagued season with the Pirates and Giants and was out to prove he was worth the two year contract the Giants still gave him despite the injuries. Pat Burrell, released from an $18 million contract by the Tampa Bay Rays, was out to prove he could still play everyday. Cody Ross was let go by the Marlins and Florida did not want anything in return for the outfielder who hit 24 home runs for them the previous year. Andres Torres had never been an everyday player, and was looking to prove he was worth something going into his first year of salary arbitration. Edgar Renteria was out to prove he was worth the $18 million the team gave him and that he could play despite several different nagging injuries. Every single everyday player for the Giants was out to prove something.
What will Jayson Werth be out to prove. If he starts the year hitting .220 with no home runs, he will still make over $100 million in the final 6 years of his contract. What is the motivation there?
Multi-year deals are not a bad thing, but when a player is making 8 figures a year over five or more years, what will drive the player to be great every day? Not too many players who sign contracts for 5 years, $50 million or more in baseball live up to the money.
Some of the worst:
That's it. No other big signings have worked out. Not Ray Durham, or Edgardo Alfonso, or Matt Morris, or Barry Zito, or Aaron Rowand or Edgar Renteria.
The last three did help us win a World Series in 2010, but with the exception of Renteria's final week, it was $204 million too much money ($126 million + $60 million + $18 million.)
It wasn't even that we picked the wrong players. It just doesn't make sense to spend big in free agency. The market is never deep, and it forces teams to outbid each other. Jayson Werth just signed the same contract aas Barry Zito did in 2007 with the lowly Washington Nationals. Seven years for $126 million. This means that Carl Crawford, another outstanding outfielder, should end up expecting more years and more money because he is younger. Adrian Gonzalez, recently traded to the Boston Red Sox, will be a free agent next year, and is looking for an extension from the Sox similar to the 8 year $180 million Mark Teixiera got from the mighty dollar New York Yankees. Big market teams drive up the comparable prices for free agents, which in turn forces smaller market teams to overpay free agents even more. That is how Zito and Rowand came to the Bondsless Giants in the first place.
Players need something to prove to play up to their potential. It is not always money related, but it usually is. Aubrey Huff and Juan Uribe were playing last year on one year deals. They were not offered any more money or years than that from 29 other teams. Huff wanted to prove he could play 1st base and could still hit for power. Uribe wanted to prove he was worth a multi-year contract. Freddy Sanchez was coming off an injury plagued season with the Pirates and Giants and was out to prove he was worth the two year contract the Giants still gave him despite the injuries. Pat Burrell, released from an $18 million contract by the Tampa Bay Rays, was out to prove he could still play everyday. Cody Ross was let go by the Marlins and Florida did not want anything in return for the outfielder who hit 24 home runs for them the previous year. Andres Torres had never been an everyday player, and was looking to prove he was worth something going into his first year of salary arbitration. Edgar Renteria was out to prove he was worth the $18 million the team gave him and that he could play despite several different nagging injuries. Every single everyday player for the Giants was out to prove something.
What will Jayson Werth be out to prove. If he starts the year hitting .220 with no home runs, he will still make over $100 million in the final 6 years of his contract. What is the motivation there?
Multi-year deals are not a bad thing, but when a player is making 8 figures a year over five or more years, what will drive the player to be great every day? Not too many players who sign contracts for 5 years, $50 million or more in baseball live up to the money.
Some of the worst:
- Barry Zito
- Aaron Rowand
- Vernon Wells
- Juan Pierre
- Gary Matthews Jr.
- Carlos Lee
- Alfonso Soriano
- Chan Ho Park
- Mike Hampton
- Darren Driefort
- Jason Giambi
- Kevin Brown
Wednesday, December 1, 2010
Saltzman Says... Tejada vs Uribe
Like I assumed, the Giants did try to offer a similar contract to Juan Uribe. They assumed they could offer a slightly lesser deal than the Dodgers and receive a "hometown" discount. They reportedly offered a 3 year $20 million to bring him back. Uribe was looking for at least $25 million and the Dodgers reportedly threatened to take the money off the table. Uribe's agent took the higher offer, and Uribe is a Dodger.
Tejada, by far, is the closest player to Uribe on the open market. Clearly, the other shortstop options don't have the power we will miss with Uribe gone. The other part of the equation that can't be understated is the absence of Uribe in the locker room will be missed, but Tejada can and will make up for that and then some.
One thing we have learned is that the locker room is a sacred place and with guys like Renteria, Uribe, Huff, Rowand and Zito, character is worth something to the Giants. Tejada has always been proclaimed as a fantastic teammate, and his presence in the locker room will fill the void lost by Renteria and Uribe.
As far as $6.5 million being way to much money to pay for Tejada, the team had budgeted $7 million for a SS, which means they have the money to sign whoever else they planned on bringing back. Yes, it is too much money for what he is "worth" but you also need to remember that he is on the top of other team's list for a SS/3B this off-season. If we didn't bring him in, someone else, i.e. San Diego, would have signed him. We already lost Uribe in the division. We don't need to miss out on another.
Tejada, by far, is the closest player to Uribe on the open market. Clearly, the other shortstop options don't have the power we will miss with Uribe gone. The other part of the equation that can't be understated is the absence of Uribe in the locker room will be missed, but Tejada can and will make up for that and then some.
One thing we have learned is that the locker room is a sacred place and with guys like Renteria, Uribe, Huff, Rowand and Zito, character is worth something to the Giants. Tejada has always been proclaimed as a fantastic teammate, and his presence in the locker room will fill the void lost by Renteria and Uribe.
As far as $6.5 million being way to much money to pay for Tejada, the team had budgeted $7 million for a SS, which means they have the money to sign whoever else they planned on bringing back. Yes, it is too much money for what he is "worth" but you also need to remember that he is on the top of other team's list for a SS/3B this off-season. If we didn't bring him in, someone else, i.e. San Diego, would have signed him. We already lost Uribe in the division. We don't need to miss out on another.
Monday, November 29, 2010
Saltzman Says... $44 million reasons to bring Uribe back
Aubrey Huff signed a 2 year $22 million deal to come back to the Giants. It is being reported via the internet Juan Uribe will sign a 3 year $22 million deal to go to the loss angeles dodgers. This sounds too perfect. Who are we to say someone is overpaid in a league that overpays all of their free agents? We have two of the worst contracts in baseball right now: Zito making $126 million and Rowand making $60 million. Zito is still owed $57 million and Rowand is still owed $24 million.
Our two big free agents are Huff and Uribe. If we bring back Huff and Uribe for $22 million each we are bringing back to two biggest thumpers in our 'thumpless' lineup. We are bringing them back for less than what we owe Aaron Rowand.
How is that too much money?
Huff's presence in the locker room is no different than Uribe's. He is as valuable to our Latin born players as Huff is in that locker room.
Our two big free agents are Huff and Uribe. If we bring back Huff and Uribe for $22 million each we are bringing back to two biggest thumpers in our 'thumpless' lineup. We are bringing them back for less than what we owe Aaron Rowand.
How is that too much money?
Huff's presence in the locker room is no different than Uribe's. He is as valuable to our Latin born players as Huff is in that locker room.
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